In this episode, Pat and Mike are joined by Michael Beck to discuss the reformed two-kingdom project and his book, Covenant Lord and Cultic Boundary: A Dialectic Inquiry Concerning Meredith Kline and the Reformed Two-Kingdom Project.

Michael Beck is the pastor of Gracenet Community Church in Wellington, New Zealand, is the author of Covenant Lord and Cultic Boundary, and hosts the Two-Age Sojourner podcast.